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Saturday, August 5, 2017

Debunking Moon Hoax Debunkers

DOCUMENTARY: APOLLO MOON HOAX DEBUNKING THE DEBUNKERS AND PSEUDO-SKEPTICS



Sources/Further Research Material:

JOE ROGAN DEBUNKS THE APOLLO MISSIONS BEFORE HE SOLD OUT
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CaPn3E5pdvan/

TOP 8 EXAMPLES PROVING THE MOON LANDING WAS A HOAX http://mindtreasury.blogspot.com/2021/04/top-8-examples-proving-moon-landing-was.html

MARCUS ALLEN OF NEXUS MAGAZINE DEBUNKS THE APOLLO MOON LANDING HOAX https://www.bitchute.com/video/EUI7EfLrT5qX/

Debunking Moon Hoax Debunkers
http://mindtreasury.blogspot.com/2017/08/debunking-moon-hoax-debunkers.html

http://www.moonfaker.com/home.html
http://www.apollomoonhoax.net
https://www.enterprisemissions.com/
http://www.truthcenterresearch.com/
https://www.seeker.com/unlucky-apollo-13-1765739541.html
https://screenrant.com/shining-movie-theory-apollo-11-moon-landing/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/yes-united-states-certainly-did-land-humans-moon-180972161/
https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-1661765350250683%3Aplh4davzngc&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=flat+earth&sa=Search&siteurl=911debunkers.blogspot.com%2F&ref=&ss=2292j852256j10



Richard C. Hoagland is a former space science museum curator; a former NASA consultant, and during the historic Apollo Missions to the Moon, was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. For over 20 years, Hoagland has been leading an outside scientific team in a critically acclaimed independent analysis of possible intelligently-designed artifacts on Mars. Richard and his team's investigations have been quietly extended to include over 30 years of previously hidden data from NASA, Soviet, and Pentagon missions to the Moon.
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/hoagland-richard-c-5605/

Richard Hoagland has asserted for many years that the Apollo program discovered large artificial glass structures on the lunar surface that has been kept from the public. Besides other conventions common in a cover-up, Hoagland made the claim that the astronauts that went to the moon had been hypnotized and any memories of extraterrestrial encounters were removed. Most interestingly, Hoagland has argued that NASA deviously orchestrated the origins of the moon-landing denials as a disinformation campaign to mask the discovery of extra-terrestrial structures on the lunar surface. In 2009, he asserted that the water molecules that NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter had discovered on the Moon had been leaked from buried extraterrestrial cities.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/yes-united-states-certainly-did-land-humans-moon-180972161/

Mythbusters Debunked - Moon Landing Hoax





Moon Hoax Expert Jarrah White Interview on Truth News Radio
Interview with Jarrah White, the world's leading expert on the Apollo Moon Hoax, on Truth News Radio in Australia. Jarrah is a Champion of Truth and Jedi Master in the Moon Hoax Debate. He is so good that NASA hired debunker Phil Plait ran away from him in fear at the Amazing Meeting in Las Vegas (see Jarrah's YouTube Channel below for proof on video).

At that meeting, Jarrah also shamed Mythbuster Adam Savage, of the Discovery Channel, by pointing out his botched experiments on Mythbusters. Since Savage was an actor, not a debater or scientist or intellectual, he became overwhelmed and bowed out, admitting that he was just an entertainer.

During an interview with Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who allegedly walked on the moon, Jarrah appeared and asked Buzz why the moon rock that they gave to Holland turned out to be a fake, which was reported on BBC. He had no idea.

Obviously, media personalities are mere puppets with no qualifications in truth or logic. They are not intellectuals or truth seekers. That's why when confronted by genuine intellectual truth seekers, such as Jarrah White, they are outmatched and run away in fear.

Here is Jarrah's YouTube Channel where you can see hundreds of his Moonfaker videos:
http://www.youtube.com/WhiteJarrah

Visit Jarrah's website at:
http://www.moonfaker.com

If you have any questions about the Moon Hoax, see Jarrah's FAQ page at:
http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html

To see a comprehensive but concise list of moon hoax evidence, see my Conspiracy Trilogy Report:
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Cons...
RE: GAME24: Debunking Lunar Landing Conspiracies with Maxwell and VXGI





Apollo Hoax - Joe Rogan


Joe Rogan vs. Phil Plait



In an episode of the program Fact or Faked Paranormal Files they did experiments which prove the "jump salute" and "feather drop" test on the moon could have been hoaxed via video trickery. They, however, concluded it wasn't a hoax because too many people would be in on the secret. The intelligence community tactic of compartmentalization easily debunks this debunking argument.

"Compartmentalization is a CIA technique designed to prevent other members within the same agency from knowing what is going on within the department. Based on a need to know and a right to know basis, it keeps the left hand from knowing what the right hand is doing. It also allows abuse of the system and provides a means for cover up."

It has also been suggested that the world's biggest vacuum chamber, which was publicly finished in 1969, could have been where the hammer and the feather, as well as the footage from the moon vehicle, was staged with no video trickery needed.

Tuesday, January 2, 2018

Eddie Bravo Rants About Tower 7 & The Moon Landings - Joe Rogan


Related:


Nov 12, 2008 ... "Observations: WTC-7 does not collapse neatly into its own footprint; you can see that it starts straight down but the south side shows less resistance and the building topples in that direction. Which means that the Troofers were right all along; the building should have (and did) collapse asymmetrically ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../does-new-footage-of-wtc-7s-collapse.html
Sep 8, 2011 ... "According to NIST, the global collapse of WTC 7 began 6.9 seconds after the East Penthouse collapse or about 23 seconds into the simulation. Now consider NIST's Figures 12-66, 12-67 and 12-69 and in particular the images showing the alleged state of the core 17.5, 19.5, 20.7, 21.8, 24.1, 26.8 and 28.8 ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/2011/09/building-7-explained.html
May 23, 2010 ... About a month ago I had a debate with several debunkers at once about the collapse of WTC 7. In particular, we debated about the period of free fall that occured during the collapse. Here are some of the more memorable responses I got from them: "I'm still gonna say wiping out 30 meters of supports is too ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/2010/05/physics-of-wtc-7.html
Jun 30, 2016 ... Labels: Take a Listen: Alaska Public Radio Covers the WTC 7 Study, Were 9/11 towers blown up by bombs?, WTC 7 Presentation to the University of Alaska Fairbanks ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../wtc-7-presentation-to-university-of.html
Aug 7, 2016 ... Related Info: The Physics of WTC 7 World Trade Center 7: An Engineered Collapse ... IT'S A TRAP!!! God dammit! I hate being duped by disinformation. Ok so there's this image making its rounds around the internets that has been presen ... The Kennedy Assassination - Jim Marrs Interviews Doug Horne.
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../wtc-7-evaluation-project-introduction.html
Sep 1, 2017 ... WTC 7 Study and Bobby McIlvaine Act to Propel Next Phase of AE911Truth Activism. Posted by JM Talboo. More Info: http://www.ae911truth.org/news/387- news-media-events-bobby-mcilvaine-act.html. Related: Bob McIlvaine: 9/11 Family Member by debunkerbuster · WTC 7 Evaluation Preliminary ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../wtc-7-study-and-bobby-mcilvaine-act-to.html
Feb 10, 2009 ... Respondents to an article about the Beijing skyscraper fire linked prominently on the Drudge Report argued against claims of controlled demolition of WTC 7 on 9/ 11 by stating that the building collapsed because it had been “hit by a 757″. Following the devastating fire in the 44-story building that housed ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../debunkers-claim-wtc-7-hit-by-757.html
Sep 12, 2014 ... 9/11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open. Posted by JM Talboo. Published on Sep 11, 2014. Infowars reporter Lee Ann McAdoo talks to Rudy Dent, 32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD, about his incredible first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7.
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../911-firefighter-blows-wtc-7-cover-up.html
Jul 17, 2012 ... Good video. It's also worth noting that NIST itself has addmitted that several of these other buildings burned just as bad or even worse than WTC7. “There are more similarities than differences between the uncontrolled fires that burned in WTC 7 and those that occurred in the following buildings: First ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/07/fire-steel-wtc-7.html
Jul 22, 2011 ... Because of the 911 lie we have all been plunged into an endless War on Terror. Only the truth about 911 will end this war and stop the criminals from pushing further atrocities upon the people of this world. I appreciated the comment by tHoM0r at the You Tube page on 12/7/11: Deception by computer ...
911debunkers.blogspot.com/.../kevin-ryan-nist-wtc-7-report-is-false.html
Debunking Moon Hoax Debunkers: 
http://mindtreasury.blogspot.com/2017/08/debunking-moon-hoax-debunkers.html 

Debunking Joe Rogan on Alien Abduction:
http://undebunkingufos.blogspot.com/2015/07/debunking-joe-rogan-on-alien-abduction.html 

Hey Joe Rogan, Debunk This!: 
http://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2015/05/hey-joe-rogan-debunk-this.html 

Eddie Bravo Rants About Tower 7 & The Moon Landings - Joe Rogan:

Thursday, July 20, 2023

US FAKED THE MOON LANDING BUT HAVE FLYING SAUCERS WHICH REGULARLY LAND ON THE MOON???



Debunking Moon Hoax Debunkers 

Apollo 11 astronauts faking an image of the Earth, pretending they were half way to the Moon


M O O N M E N : THE (LITERALLY) IMPOSSIBLE JOURNEY -- BART SIBREL---DEATHBED CONFESSION - EYEWITNESS TO THE MOON LANDING LIE


Deathbed Confession From a NASA Insider " I Filmed the Fake Moon Landing"


Deathbed Confession PROVES Moon Landing Was Fake


11 ASTRONAUTS DIED MYSTERIOUSLY LEADING UP TO THE FAKE MOON LANDING IN '69, WITH 8 ALONE IN 1967!


BART SIBREL PRESENTS EVIDENCE CLAIMING NASA FAKED THE MOON LANDINGS


Former Science Advisor to Walter Cronkite: 'Star Wars is Our Real Ancient Galactic History & Everything Else is Fake'

The Moon is the debris of a spacecraft? - David Icke - Saturn & The Moon Matrix - Escaping the Matrix - Breaking the Cycle of Reincarnation to a Prison Planet/Body - THEY RECYCLE YOUR SOUL - WARNING! The Afterlife "Life Review" Is A Trap! - When you die, should you go into the light?

US FAKED THE MOON LANDING BUT HAVE FLYING SAUCERS WHICH REGULARLY LAND ON THE MOON???

Monday, August 10, 2026

New Ukrainian Moon UFO Observations Put the Moon’s Strangest Anomalies Back Under the Microscope

New Ukrainian Moon UFO Observations Put the Moon’s Strangest Anomalies Back Under the Microscope

By JM Talboo 

What if the Moon isn't quite the dead, inactive world we were taught to imagine?

A new preprint from researchers associated with Ukraine's Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine is making an extraordinary claim: high-speed observations near the Moon have captured objects that the researchers interpret as unidentified craft, including disc-shaped objects estimated at 25 to 40 kilometers across and toroidal, or ring-shaped, objects approximately 36 kilometers in size.

The researchers report speeds reaching approximately 11 kilometers per second, unusual brightness fluctuations, and apparent rotation.

Most remarkably, the authors ultimately propose that the Moon may serve as a base for UFOs and that these objects may represent a technologically advanced civilization.

Those are extraordinary claims.

They are also claims that remain unproven.

The paper is a preprint and has not established its conclusions through independent peer review or replication. But that doesn't necessarily make the underlying observations unworthy of examination.

And that is where this story gets interesting.


The Ukrainian Observations

The latest paper, “UFO Dynamics on the Moon,” is authored by Boris Zhilyaev, Vladimir Petukhov and Sergey Pokhvala, who identify themselves with the Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine in Kyiv.

According to the paper's abstract, high-speed video recordings of the sky near the Moon revealed numerous objects that the researchers broadly divide into “atmospheric” and “continental” categories.

The reported atmospheric objects produce flashes lasting between approximately 100 and 500 milliseconds, with brightness variations occurring at frequencies of a few hertz.

The more dramatic claims concern the objects the authors classify as continental.

The paper reports:

  • Disc-shaped objects approximately 25–40 kilometers in diameter

  • Toroidal objects approximately 36 kilometers across

  • Reported speeds reaching 11 km/s

  • A reported toroidal rotation period of approximately 180 seconds

  • A calculated centrifugal acceleration of approximately 2,200 cm/s², roughly twice Earth's surface gravity

  • And the authors' conclusion that the Moon may function as a UFO base.

An earlier paper by the same researchers, Observations of Unidentified Flying Objects on the Moon, reported objects ranging from approximately 14 to 36 kilometers, speeds between 6 and 11 km/s, and reconstructed disc-shaped and toroidal forms.

The researchers say their observations were made using high-speed astronomical imaging.

That doesn't automatically establish their interpretation.

But it does mean that the claims are not simply coming from an anonymous person posting a blurry cellphone video.

The Ukrainian observatory has publicly posted the research:

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/717-ufo-dynamics-on-the-moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/709-observations-of-ufos-on-the-moon

The full preprint is also available through research repositories.


The Angry Astronaut Reconsiders Old Lunar Footage

This is where the story gets considerably more interesting.

YouTuber The Angry Astronaut recently examined the Ukrainian research in a video titled:

“Insane! Astronomers spot huge UFOs orbiting the Moon!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJOk72eCsU

The video doesn't merely discuss the new observations.

It also brings up older footage that The Angry Astronaut says he previously believed was fake.

And then he says something remarkable:

“Which for a very long time I thought was fake, but now I'm not so sure.”

That doesn't mean he is claiming that the old footage has been proven genuine.

He isn't.

He's saying that new information has caused him to reconsider a previous conclusion.

That is one of the most interesting aspects of the story.

The old footage, according to his discussion, appears to show something moving across the lunar surface in a manner that he now finds difficult to dismiss outright after seeing the new Ukrainian material.

He also makes an important distinction concerning the Ukrainian research itself:

“That does not make the interpretation correct, but it does mean the raw claim is coming from professional instrumentation, not a backyard telescope or a viral phone clip.”

That's an important point.

Professional equipment does not guarantee a correct interpretation.

But neither should a controversial interpretation automatically make the underlying observations unworthy of examination.


A Long History of Strange Things on the Moon

The Ukrainian observations aren't appearing in a vacuum.

The Moon has been the subject of anomalous observations for centuries.

Observers have reported transient flashes, glows, obscurations and other unusual phenomena on its surface. More recently, UFO researchers have compiled enormous catalogs of photographs they believe show structures or objects that appear difficult to explain as ordinary lunar terrain.

One extensive collection, “Strange Moon Surface Anomalies,” discusses alleged formations including:

  • The Tower

  • The Shard

  • The Castle

  • The Lunar Cylinder

  • The alleged Ukert Crater triangle

  • Objects associated with Apollo 12

  • Alleged moving objects known as Fastwalkers

  • And other unusual geometric formations.

https://www.unariunwisdom.com/strange-moon-surface-anomalies/

Another lunar-anomaly archive contains discussions of alleged structures referred to as The Tower, The Castle, The Dish, The Paperclip, and others.

https://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/lunar_anomaly.html

None of these names constitute scientific classifications.

They are names given by investigators who believe the images deserve further examination.

And some of the claims are much stranger than others.


The “Gun Turret” on the Moon

Here's the one that took some digging.

If you've ever tried searching for a “Moon gun turret,” “lunar cannon,” “mile-long gun turret,” “Apollo 16 gun turret,” or “gun emplacement on the Moon,” you may have discovered that finding the original source is surprisingly difficult.

The reason is that the claim comes from a specific documentary rather than from NASA itself.

The 2014 documentary Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed examines an Apollo photograph and presents an interpretation of what investigators believe can be seen in it.

According to the documentary's narration, the photograph was taken by the Apollo 16 astronauts and allegedly shows a huge fortress-like formation consisting of a towering cylindrical structure positioned next to what might be a gun turret extending for more than a mile in the Mare Crisium region. The documentary also discusses a possible massive satellite dish.

That is almost certainly the image many people remember when they talk about a supposed “giant gun turret” or “cannon” on the Moon.

And the wording matters.

The documentary does not establish that NASA discovered a lunar gun.

It presents an interpretation of NASA imagery.

So there are three separate questions:

What does the original photograph actually show?

What did the documentary's investigators believe it showed?

Is that interpretation correct?

Those questions should not be collapsed into one.

But if you've been searching for that strange image of what looks like a giant cannon or gun emplacement on the lunar surface, the documentary is the trail to follow.

And yes—the alleged structure was described as extending more than a mile.

That's the phrase worth remembering.


The Tower, Castle, Dish and Other Lunar Anomalies

The alleged gun turret isn't an isolated claim.

Researchers who investigate lunar anomalies have identified numerous photographs they believe depict geometric or artificial-looking structures.

Among the most famous are:

The Tower

An enormous vertical formation that some investigators have interpreted as an artificial tower or construction.

The Castle

A complex-looking formation that has been interpreted as having apparent columns, structural elements and a central tower.

The Dish

A formation interpreted as resembling a gigantic communications dish or antenna.

The Shard

A tall, apparently geometric formation that has been interpreted by some investigators as an enormous artificial structure.

The Lunar Cylinder

An apparently cylindrical object that has attracted attention because of its unusual geometry.

The scale of some of these alleged objects is enormous.

But scale is one of the most difficult things to establish from a single lunar photograph.

Without reliable distance information and an appropriate reference, something that looks enormous may be much smaller—or may not be a discrete object at all.

That is why obtaining original imagery, examining multiple frames and establishing geometry are so important.


The Question of the Original Images

There's another reason the older lunar-anomaly material remains so controversial.

A photograph can be perfectly authentic while an interpretation of the photograph is completely wrong.

Lighting can create dramatic shadows.

Low-angle illumination can make ordinary terrain appear architectural.

Compression and image processing can introduce artifacts.

Perspective can distort familiar shapes.

And the human brain is exceptionally good at finding recognizable patterns in ambiguous imagery.

But the opposite problem exists too.

A photograph being ambiguous does not automatically mean the object in it has been explained.

The scientifically useful question isn't:

“Does it look like a building?”

It's:

“What measurements or observations would allow us to distinguish a building from a geological formation or image artifact?”

That's the standard any extraordinary interpretation ultimately has to meet.


What About the Moon's Other “Anomalies”?

The UFO literature surrounding the Moon contains much more than photographs of alleged structures.

There are also reports of:

  • Transient lunar lights

  • Strange flashes

  • Moving objects

  • Objects appearing above the lunar surface

  • Geometric formations

  • Apparent shadows without obvious sources

  • Unusual color changes

  • Objects seen in or around lunar photographs

Some observations have conventional explanations.

Others remain disputed.

And some are simply too poorly documented to reach a meaningful conclusion.

That doesn't make them evidence of aliens.

But it also doesn't make every historical observation automatically worthless.


The Flat-Earth Perspective: What If the UFO Story Is Part of the Cover-Up?

There is another perspective that deserves to be included—not because it has been proven, but because it represents a radically different interpretation of the entire lunar-anomaly phenomenon.

From a Flat-Earth perspective, the alleged UFOs, lunar structures and strange Moon imagery may themselves be part of the deception.

In this interpretation, the anomalies aren't necessarily exposing a secret extraterrestrial presence.

They may be part of the cover story designed to distract people from what is supposedly really happening.

In other words, the mystery itself could be the distraction.

The public sees strange objects.

Researchers argue about alien bases.

People debate whether structures are artificial.

Documentaries present dramatic interpretations.

And, from this perspective, all of that attention may be directed toward the wrong question.

The underlying idea is essentially:

What if we're being given a mystery to investigate because the real mystery is somewhere else?

This is a much more extreme proposition than the claim that unidentified objects are operating around the Moon, and there is no established evidence proving it.

But it is worth documenting because it demonstrates just how radically different the interpretations of the same material can become.

One person looks at a strange lunar photograph and sees an extraterrestrial installation.

Another sees a geological formation.

Another sees a camera artifact.

And the Flat-Earth interpretation asks whether the entire UFO narrative itself could be part of a larger deception intended to conceal the true nature of the world.

For readers interested in that perspective, this page presents a collection of lunar-anomaly material from within the alternative-research community:

https://bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_moonanomalies12.htm

And that brings to mind a quotation frequently circulated in conspiracy and alternative-research circles:

“Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him.”

—Albert Pike

Whatever its ultimate provenance, the sentiment captures the idea being discussed here: if people need a hero, villain, mystery or explanation, what if one is supplied to them?

Source:

https://ifunny.co/picture/whenever-the-people-need-a-hero-we-shall-supply-him-FdQlwZpQA

Again, that is presented here as the Flat-Earth/alternative perspective, not as an established explanation for the Moon.


The Moon's Extraordinary Eclipse Geometry

The lunar-UFO discussion also frequently moves into another unusual feature of the Earth-Moon system: total solar eclipses.

The Moon currently appears almost exactly the right angular size in Earth's sky to completely cover the Sun's photosphere while leaving the solar corona visible.

It is an extraordinary coincidence.

The Moon is also slowly receding from Earth, meaning the geometry of total solar eclipses is temporary on geological timescales.

This has led some people to wonder whether the timing is somehow significant.

But there is an important distinction.

The eclipse geometry is real.

The Moon's recession is real.

But neither fact establishes that the Moon was deliberately positioned here.

The coincidence can be fascinating without being proof of design.

And this is an important principle for the entire lunar-anomaly debate:

A strange coincidence is a reason to ask a question, not automatically an answer to it.


The Moon's Density and Origin

Another frequently discussed lunar characteristic is its density.

Earth's average density is approximately 5.51 g/cm³, while the Moon's is approximately 3.34 g/cm³.

The Moon therefore has a substantially lower average density than Earth.

The leading scientific explanation is the giant-impact hypothesis, in which a Mars-sized body—often called Theia—struck the early Earth and debris eventually formed the Moon.

The model provides a mechanism for a Moon with a relatively small iron core and a much larger proportion of mantle material.

There are, however, continuing scientific questions surrounding exactly how the Moon formed and how to reconcile the details of lunar formation models with the remarkable similarities between Earth and Moon samples.

Those questions are legitimate scientific problems.

They are not evidence that the Moon is artificial.

But they are another reminder that the conventional story of the Moon continues to develop as new evidence is examined.


The Peer-Review Question

This may be the most important issue raised by the new Ukrainian work.

The papers are preprints. They have not been established through peer review.

That matters.

Peer review is an important part of science because independent experts can examine methodology, calculations, data interpretation and conclusions.

But there is another side to the discussion.

What happens when controversial work is never given a serious opportunity to undergo that process?

The Angry Astronaut makes that argument directly.

Discussing the Ukrainian research, he says:

“Nobody is going to peer review something like this, which again in my opinion is incredibly irresponsible. If you want to disprove stuff like this, then give it a chance to stand up against peer review.”

That isn't the same as saying:

“It's not peer-reviewed, therefore it's true.”

It's the opposite challenge:

If it's wrong, examine it rigorously and demonstrate where it fails.

That is a legitimate position.

Our own article “Peer-Reviewed 9/11 Truth” isn't about UFOs or lunar anomalies, but it examines controversies surrounding peer review and why the process shouldn't be treated as a magical stamp of absolute truth.

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/10/peer-reviewed-911-truth.html?m=1

Peer review is important.

But peer review is performed by human beings.

It can identify errors.

It can improve research.

It can reject bad work.

And it can sometimes be influenced by disciplinary boundaries, assumptions, incentives and controversies surrounding a subject.

So the appropriate position isn't “peer review is meaningless.”

It's:

Peer review is an important tool—but it isn't the final word on reality.


What We Actually Know

At this point, it's useful to separate the claims from the conclusions.

What is documented?

Researchers associated with Ukraine's Main Astronomical Observatory have published preprints describing high-speed observations of unidentified objects near the Moon.

What do the researchers report?

They describe objects with estimated dimensions ranging from kilometers to tens of kilometers, including disc-shaped and toroidal forms, with reported high speeds and brightness variations.

What do they conclude?

They propose that the objects may represent manifestations of a technologically advanced civilization and that the Moon may serve as a base.

Has extraterrestrial origin been established?

No.

Has the new work been independently replicated and accepted through peer review?

Not at this point.

Does that automatically mean the observations are false?

No.

Does the fact that professional astronomical equipment was used prove the interpretation?

No.

That's the line we should keep throughout this investigation.


The Most Interesting Part May Be What Happens Next

The most scientifically useful outcome of this controversy wouldn't be for everybody to suddenly declare that the Moon is an alien base.

It would be for independent researchers to examine the data.

Check the instrumentation.

Examine the image-processing pipeline.

Verify the distance calculations.

Analyze possible optical artifacts.

Compare the observations with satellites, aircraft, spacecraft and other known objects.

Attempt simultaneous observations from multiple locations.

Try to reproduce the reported measurements.

If the objects are artifacts, show us.

If they're ordinary objects at a different distance, show us.

If the calculations are wrong, show us.

And if independent researchers perform those tests and the observations continue to resist explanation?

Then the story becomes considerably more interesting.

That's how controversial claims should be handled.


And What About That Old Video?

This brings us back to the footage that started another part of this investigation.

The Angry Astronaut says he once thought the video was fake.

After seeing the new Ukrainian material, he's no longer certain.

That does not prove the video is real.

It does demonstrate something else:

People can change their minds when new information causes them to reconsider old evidence.

That's worth remembering in both directions.

A believer should be willing to change his mind if the evidence fails.

A skeptic should be willing to change his mind if the evidence survives scrutiny.

And an investigator should be willing to say:

“I don't know yet.”

That may be the most honest answer available right now.


So… What Is Really Going On Up There?

The Moon has been photographed more extensively than almost any other object in the night sky.

We've orbited it.

We've landed on it.

We've driven vehicles across it.

We've collected samples.

We've left scientific instruments there.

And yet, somehow, the Moon continues to generate some of the strangest claims in modern anomalous research.

Some of those claims will almost certainly turn out to have mundane explanations.

Some may be artifacts of photography.

Some may be misidentified objects.

Some may simply be stories that grew larger over time.

But the new Ukrainian observations give us something different to examine: a contemporary set of quantitative claims made by named researchers using astronomical instrumentation.

Whether those observations ultimately survive scrutiny remains to be seen.

And the old lunar footage remains an open question for those who find it compelling.

The alleged mile-long lunar gun turret or cannon remains an interpretation from a 2014 documentary—not a discovery announced by NASA.

The Tower, Castle, Dish and other alleged structures remain interpretations of photographs.

The Flat-Earth claim that the entire UFO narrative could itself be part of a cover-up is another hypothesis entirely.

And none of these should be confused with established fact.

But neither should the existence of controversy be used as an excuse to stop investigating.

So we're going to put the claims on the table.

Here are the observations.

Here are the photographs.

Here is the footage.

Here are the researchers.

Here are the interpretations.

Here are the criticisms.

And now we wait to see whether somebody is willing to put the new claims through the kind of rigorous examination that could either knock them down—or make them considerably harder to dismiss.

We'll wait and see.

And if nobody even gives it a serious shot?

Remember that we said that.


Sources & Further Reading

Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine — UFO Dynamics on the Moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/717-ufo-dynamics-on-the-moon

Main Astronomical Observatory — Observations of UFOs on the Moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/709-observations-of-ufos-on-the-moon

ResearchGate — UFO Dynamics on the Moon

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/403225173_UFO_Dynamics_on_the_Moon

ResearchGate — Observations of Unidentified Flying Objects on the Moon

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/399584853_Observations_of_Unidentified_Flying_Objects_on_the_Moon

The Angry Astronaut — “Insane! Astronomers spot huge UFOs orbiting the Moon!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJOk72eCsU

Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed (2014) — transcript

https://www.subtitlecat.com/subs/174/Aliens%20On%20The%20Moon%20-%20The%20Truth%20Exposed%20%282014%29.html

Unariun Wisdom — Strange Moon Surface Anomalies

https://www.unariunwisdom.com/strange-moon-surface-anomalies/

TarrDaniel — Lunar Anomaly Archive

https://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/lunar_anomaly.html

Biblioteca Pleyades — Moon Anomalies

https://bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_moonanomalies12.htm

911 Debunkers — Peer-Reviewed 9/11 Truth

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/10/peer-reviewed-911-truth.html?m=1

iFunny — “Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him”

https://ifunny.co/picture/whenever-the-people-need-a-hero-we-shall-supply-him-FdQlwZpQA

Sunday, December 17, 2023

Putin Told Moon Landing Photos Are Fake---Tucker Carlson Questions Whether Moon Landing Was a Hoax

Putin Told Moon Landing Photos Are Fake---Tucker Carlson Questions Whether Moon Landing Was a Hoax



The Red Pilling of Tucker Carlson. He’d have gotten there decades ago if he’d bothered to read a few of the right books that challenged his world view, but it took a Tumpian Awakening. Trump in his Trumpian way was basically arguing for that they just couldn’t deal, they couldn’t deal with any questions about the way things were then operating and when I saw that that just completely exploded my view of the system. I was, like, this system is a lot more fragile than I realized. It’s a lot less legitimate than I realized and then just the whole four years of Trump and like he’d say something that was like truly insane like the intelligence agencies are spying on me and you’re, like, okay, the Intel agencies are not spying like what you know what I mean, right, what are you like, uh, is the moon landing fake too, right, and then you’d find out like a year later actually the intelligence agencies were spying on them and then everyone would be like, “Well, they had to,” and you’d be like, wait, first of all he was right, second, I don’t care whether it’s true, I don’t care who the president is you can’t spy on the president because he works for you (I think he meant to say, you work for him). That’s an attack on our system. “No, it’s totally fine…” I would see stuff like that and I was just, like, you know what, I’m out and ultimately left the city. I really became convinced that the system was not, uh, going to be enduring, like, this can’t go on. If the system is based on lying that’s a foundation of sand. Like, it will not continue, uh, much longer and that’s how I feel about our system and by system, I mean our political system, our financial system, and our foreign policy assumptions.
BREAKING NEWS - ADVANCED A.I. SAYS MOON PICTURES ARE FAKE
https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2023/12/breaking-news-advanced-ai-says-moon.html


Aug 27, 2023 — Conspiracy theorist Bart Sibrel joins 'Fox News Saturday Night' to discuss his doubts over the moon landing.
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