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Tuesday, August 11, 2026

When a Ghost Answers Back: The Alice Riley Investigation and the Mystery of Intelligent Hauntings

When a Ghost Answers Back: The Alice Riley Investigation and the Mystery of Intelligent Hauntings

By JM Talboo 

There is a big difference between something strange happening in a supposedly haunted location and an apparent response to a question.

That distinction may be one of the most interesting things to come out of a recent episode of Expedition X.

In Season 8, Episode 5, “City of Ghosts,” the team investigates several allegedly haunted locations in Savannah, Georgia. One of the cases centers around Wright Square and the ghost of Alice Riley, a woman who was executed there in 1735.

What makes the investigation particularly intriguing is not simply that the investigators claim to encounter an apparition.

It's the apparent sequence of events.

They were looking for Alice.

They received what they interpreted as the name “Alice.”

Then they asked for a specific response.

And something appeared on thermal imaging in the precise area where they had asked the alleged spirit to go.

If the footage and interaction are accurately represented, that is considerably more interesting than simply finding an unexplained cold spot or seeing something strange in a photograph.

Because it raises a much bigger question:

Was something actually listening?


Who Was Alice Riley?

The historical Alice Riley was an Irish indentured servant who came to the Georgia colony in the early 1730s.

She worked for a man named William Wise. Historical accounts state that Riley and another servant, Richard White, were convicted in connection with Wise's murder in 1734.

Riley was sentenced to death.

Because she was pregnant, her execution was delayed until after she gave birth. She was ultimately hanged in Savannah on January 19, 1735. Her newborn son, James, died shortly afterward. Wright Square became associated with her execution and, eventually, with stories of her ghost.

The historical record and the later ghost story are not necessarily the same thing.

That distinction is important.

The University of North Florida's digital archive confirms the Wright Square association and records the local tradition that the square is haunted by Riley's ghost:

https://digitalcommons.unf.edu/historical_architecture_main/4333/

A historical account also points out that some of the colorful details repeated in modern versions of Riley's story may be later embellishments rather than firmly documented history:

https://www.executedtoday.com/2017/01/19/1735-alice-riley-savannah-ghost/

What is not particularly controversial is that Alice Riley existed and was executed in Wright Square in 1735.

What happened afterward is where history becomes legend.


The Ghost of Wright Square

The traditional haunting associated with Alice Riley is unusually specific.

According to local lore, her apparition appears as a pale or red-haired woman and is sometimes said to be searching for her baby.

Other versions of the story describe encounters with a distressed woman in Wright Square who identifies with Riley's tragic history.

Whether any of these encounters actually occurred is another question.

But there is something notable about the tradition:

The alleged apparition isn't just an anonymous ghost.

It has an identity.

It has a history.

It has a location.

And it supposedly behaves in ways consistent with the historical tragedy associated with that location.

That makes the Alice Riley case particularly useful when discussing what paranormal investigators call intelligent hauntings.


Not All Hauntings Are Supposed to Be the Same

The word haunting can actually describe several very different kinds of reported phenomena.

Residual Hauntings

These are supposedly repetitive events that occur without apparent awareness of the people witnessing them.

A person may repeatedly see the same figure walking down a hallway, hear the same footsteps, or observe the same event occurring over and over.

The phenomenon doesn't appear to respond.

It's more like watching a recording than interacting with a person.

Intelligent Hauntings

This is where things get much more interesting.

An intelligent haunting is one in which an apparent entity seems capable of responding to people, questions or circumstances.

If someone asks, “Are you here?” and receives an apparent response, that's one thing.

If someone asks, “Can you move over there?” and something apparently moves there, that's considerably more interesting.

The problem, of course, is determining whether the response was genuinely related to the question or whether the timing was coincidental.

Crisis Apparitions

These are reports of people apparently seeing or sensing someone around the time that person is experiencing a crisis, injury or death—sometimes at a distance.

These reports raise questions about whether consciousness could somehow be perceived independently of physical proximity.

Full or Partial Apparitions

Some reports involve apparently human figures.

Others involve only a head, torso, face, arm or other portion of a figure.

Thermal cameras add another complication because they don't record ordinary visible light. They record infrared radiation and translate temperature differences into an image.

Shadow Figures

These are generally described as dark, humanoid forms seen briefly, often in peripheral vision or low-light conditions.

Poltergeist-Type Activity

This category generally refers to apparently physical disturbances—objects moving, knocking sounds, doors opening or closing, and other environmental activity—rather than an identifiable apparition.

Electronic Phenomena

This includes alleged electronic voice phenomena, spirit-box responses, unexplained radio-like responses and other supposed communications involving technology.

And then there are cases where several categories appear to overlap.

That's where the Alice Riley investigation becomes particularly interesting.


The Expedition X Investigation

On Expedition X, the investigators aren't simply walking around Wright Square hoping to see something.

They attempt to communicate.

At one point, the team is attempting to establish whether the entity they're encountering might actually be Alice.

They apparently receive the name “Alice.”

That alone wouldn't prove much.

There are plenty of possible explanations for an ambiguous audio response.

It could be another word.

It could be an environmental sound.

It could be pareidolia.

It could be a coincidence.

It could even be the investigators unconsciously interpreting an ambiguous sound according to what they already expected to hear.

But then comes the more interesting part.

The investigator addresses Alice directly and asks her to perform a specific action involving a tree.

And the thermal camera subsequently records an anomalous shape moving across the scene and passing in front of the tree.

The object isn't a perfect, movie-style transparent human body.

It doesn't have clearly visible arms, legs and facial features.

Instead, what appears on the thermal footage is an approximately human-sized horizontal anomaly moving through the field of view.

And it appears in the location the investigators had just identified.

That is what makes the sequence worth discussing.

It's not simply “we saw something weird.”

It's:

“We asked for something specific, and something apparently happened in response.”


The Difference Between an Anomaly and a Response

This distinction is important enough to emphasize.

Suppose you put a thermal camera in a supposedly haunted building and record something strange.

That's an anomaly.

You don't yet know what caused it.

It could be a person.

It could be an animal.

It could be heat moving through the environment.

It could be an optical or thermal artifact.

It could be something associated with the camera itself.

Or it could be something genuinely unexplained.

But suppose you ask an alleged entity:

“If you're here, go stand in front of that tree.”

And then something apparently human-sized moves in front of that tree.

Now you've potentially introduced another variable:

intentionality.

The phenomenon appears to have responded to an instruction.

That is the dividing line between an unexplained event and what paranormal investigators would call an intelligent haunting.

Of course, there's still a huge burden of proof.

The response has to be demonstrated to be genuinely correlated with the request.

The possibility of coincidence has to be considered.

The camera has to be examined.

The environment has to be examined.

And, ideally, independent investigators should be able to reproduce the observation.

But if those conditions can be satisfied, a responsive phenomenon is far more interesting than a random unexplained image.


“Put It in a Laboratory”

There is a perfectly reasonable criticism that can be made of paranormal television investigations:

Where are the controlled experiments?

That's a fair question.

Scientific controls, repeatability, independent observation and peer review are enormously important tools for determining whether an extraordinary claim is actually supported by the evidence.

But there is a problem when those tools become absolute prerequisites rather than tools.

Imagine a haunting that supposedly occurs only at a particular historical location. The witnesses report that something happened there once—or perhaps several times—but the phenomenon doesn't appear on command.

How exactly do you reproduce that in a laboratory?

How many scientific laboratories are purportedly haunted?

And if the phenomenon is supposedly tied to a particular building, location, historical event, person or environmental condition, wouldn't removing it from that environment potentially change the experiment itself?

Unless somebody develops the Ghostbusters' equipment and figures out how to catch an alleged spirit and bring it into the laboratory, we're dealing with a methodological problem that isn't quite as simple as saying:

“Put it in a lab and reproduce it.”

This is not an argument against repeatability.

Quite the opposite.

Repeatability is one of the most valuable tools we have.

The point is that the nature of the phenomenon should determine how we attempt to test it.

A 2015 article on Debunking Death makes this argument while discussing paranormal evidence and the limitations of applying the repeatable-laboratory-result and peer-review model indiscriminately.

The article discusses a reported poltergeist case involving multiple witnesses, including police and firefighters, and argues that an event can potentially constitute evidence even when its particular circumstances make controlled laboratory repetition impossible.

It also explicitly acknowledges that paranormal phenomena have been subjected to repeatable testing and scientific experimentation.

Read the full discussion here:

https://debunkingdeath.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-repeatable-laboratory-resultpeer.html?m=1

The argument isn't that scientific methodology should be discarded.

It's that a methodology is a tool, not an infallible prerequisite for deciding whether an unusual event deserves investigation.

If a phenomenon can be repeatedly demonstrated in a laboratory, that's excellent.

If it can't, the next question should be why.

Is it because the original phenomenon wasn't genuine?

Is it because it was a coincidence?

Is it because the experiment wasn't sufficiently controlled?

Or is the phenomenon inherently dependent upon conditions that the laboratory experiment eliminated?

Those are different possibilities, and they shouldn't automatically be treated as the same conclusion.


What Would a Paranormal Laboratory Actually Look Like?

None of this means paranormal phenomena couldn't be studied under controlled conditions.

In fact, if someone had the resources and the willingness to do it, there are some fascinating experiments that could be designed.

One approach would be to bring supposedly haunted objects into a controlled environment rather than attempting to bring an entire haunted location into a laboratory.

Imagine a properly documented collection of objects with longstanding reputations for paranormal activity.

Place them in a dedicated facility equipped with continuous video, thermal imaging, environmental sensors, audio recording equipment and electromagnetic monitoring.

Establish a baseline before anyone interacts with the objects.

Maintain strict controls.

Document every person who enters the room.

Record everything continuously.

Then you could begin conducting experiments.

And here's where it gets particularly interesting.

If the hypothesis is that certain paranormal phenomena are somehow influenced by human attention, emotion, expectation or the history associated with a location or object, those variables could potentially be tested as well.

Researchers could compare supposedly haunted objects with control objects that look similar but have no paranormal history.

They could test periods of complete isolation against periods of human interaction.

They could document whether reported phenomena increase following attempts at communication or other traditional paranormal practices.

Even the environmental history of the experimental room could become a variable.

None of those procedures would establish beforehand that paranormal phenomena are real.

They would simply provide different conditions under which the hypothesis could be tested.

The important thing is that someone would actually have to be willing to do it.

It is easy to say:

“Put it through a controlled experiment.”

It is considerably harder to design the experiment, fund it, recruit qualified researchers, acquire the materials, maintain controls for months or years and patiently record whatever happens—including nothing happening at all.

If I ever become ridiculously wealthy, this is exactly the sort of experiment I'd be tempted to fund.

I'd buy some of the most notoriously haunted objects I could find, build a properly equipped laboratory, hire people with the appropriate scientific credentials, establish rigorous controls and start testing.

And if nothing happened?

That's data too.

But if something did happen repeatedly under controlled conditions, we'd finally have something much more substantial to argue about.

The point is not that paranormal phenomena should be exempt from investigation.

The point is that we should be creative enough to design experiments that actually give the phenomenon a chance to demonstrate whether it exists.


What Does Any of This Have to Do With the Afterlife?

This is where the subject becomes much more philosophical.

Most people who investigate ghosts aren't ultimately interested in ghosts merely because they're spooky.

They're interested because of one enormous question:

Does consciousness survive death?

That's the real question underneath almost everything involving hauntings.

But even that question may be too simplistic.

Suppose consciousness does survive physical death.

That doesn't necessarily tell us how it survives.

Does a person's consciousness continue indefinitely?

Does it survive for years, centuries or something else?

Does a personality remain intact?

Does memory remain intact?

Can consciousness interact with the physical world?

Could some apparent hauntings be genuine surviving personalities while others are something completely different?

We don't know.

And that's why cases involving historically identifiable individuals are particularly interesting.

The Alice Riley legend, if it reflects something genuinely paranormal, would involve a purported personality continuing to manifest nearly three centuries after the person's death.

That would at least challenge the idea that every alleged after-death manifestation must occur immediately after death.

But it still wouldn't answer the ultimate question of whether an afterlife exists.

It would simply move the question forward.


What If the Afterlife Doesn't Last Forever?

Here's another possibility that rarely gets discussed.

People often frame the afterlife question as binary:

Either consciousness survives death, or it doesn't.

But what if the answer is somewhere in between?

What if consciousness survives for a period of time?

What if some aspect of personality persists temporarily?

What if what people call a ghost is not an immortal soul but some kind of residual manifestation?

What if consciousness changes after death in ways we don't understand?

Or what if the apparent persistence of a person isn't actually the person at all?

These possibilities are speculative.

But that's precisely why paranormal cases should be separated into observations and interpretations.

An unexplained event doesn't automatically prove an afterlife.

But if a phenomenon can demonstrate apparently intelligent behavior, that would be a different category of problem.


The Alice Problem

There is another fascinating aspect of the Wright Square case.

The investigators weren't simply looking for a ghost.

They were looking for Alice.

That's a much more specific hypothesis.

If an unexplained thermal anomaly appeared in Wright Square, that would be one thing.

If an investigator asked:

“Alice, are you here?”

and received something resembling “Alice,” that would be another.

If the investigator then asked:

“Alice, can you go in front of that tree?”

and a human-sized thermal anomaly subsequently appeared in front of that tree, the sequence becomes considerably more interesting.

The critical question then becomes:

Was the sequence genuinely responsive, or are we seeing a series of coincidences that television editing has made appear connected?

That's the question that deserves investigation.


Television Isn't a Laboratory

There's an obvious objection that needs to be acknowledged.

Expedition X is television.

Television shows are edited.

They select footage.

They build narratives.

They have dramatic pacing.

And viewers generally aren't given every second of raw footage, every camera angle or every failed attempt.

That doesn't automatically mean the evidence shown is fake.

But it does mean that the broadcast itself isn't a controlled scientific experiment.

A compelling television segment can therefore be a reason to investigate something further without being the final proof of anything.

In fact, that's probably the fairest way to approach paranormal television in general.

Don't automatically believe it.

Don't automatically dismiss it.

Use it as a source of cases to investigate.


And This Is Where Corroborating Evidence Matters

The most interesting paranormal cases aren't necessarily the ones with one spectacular piece of evidence.

They're the ones where different kinds of evidence appear to point toward the same underlying phenomenon.

For example:

  • A historical person is associated with a location.

  • Multiple witnesses report seeing an apparition.

  • The apparition allegedly behaves consistently with the historical story.

  • Investigators receive apparent communication.

  • A second device records something unusual.

  • The unusual event occurs after a specific request.

  • The response appears to happen in a specific location.

None of those things individually proves survival after death.

But if independent lines of evidence repeatedly converge, the case becomes more interesting.

That's what I mean by corroborating evidence within the evidence.

It's not merely:

“Look, a weird thing happened.”

It's:

“Look at how several pieces of information appear to interact.”


So, Is Alice Riley Still There?

We don't know.

And that's the honest answer.

The historical Alice Riley unquestionably existed and was executed in Savannah in 1735.

The association between Alice Riley and the alleged haunting of Wright Square is a longstanding local tradition.

People have reported encounters with an apparition they identify as Alice.

And on Expedition X, investigators recorded what they interpreted as an apparent communication followed by a thermal anomaly appearing in response to a specific request.

If that sequence represents what it appears to represent, it is fascinating.

But there are still unanswered questions.

Was the audio genuinely saying “Alice”?

Was the thermal anomaly actually a human-sized object?

Was it physically present?

Could it have been a thermal reflection, animal, person, environmental effect or camera artifact?

Was the timing genuinely responsive?

Could the entire sequence be reproduced under controlled conditions?

And, most importantly:

If something really did respond intelligently, what exactly was responding?


The Bigger Question

Maybe that's the most interesting thing about paranormal investigation.

We're often asking the wrong question.

We ask:

“Is that a ghost?”

But perhaps the better question is:

“What phenomenon could produce this?”

And if the answer eventually turns out to involve something we currently don't understand, then we can ask the next question.

Could it be consciousness?

Could it be something that survives death?

Could it be a phenomenon we haven't even imagined yet?

Or could it ultimately turn out to have a completely ordinary explanation?

We don't know.

But if an alleged apparition can receive a question, understand it, and deliberately respond to it, then we're no longer dealing with merely a strange photograph.

We're dealing with the possibility of interaction.

And interaction is where the ghost story becomes a scientific question.

Maybe the real question isn't whether something strange happened in Wright Square.

Maybe it's whether something was listening.

Sunday, March 10, 2019

Captain Marvel Drops A MASSIVE 72% At The Box Office! - Captain Marvel Soars While the Media Expose Their Own Bias - Captain Marvel Shatters Box Office and Possibly the MCU




Captain Marvel Soars While the Media Expose Their Own Bias - Captain Marvel Shatters Box Office and Possibly the MCU

UMCorian
It's only when Disney, YouTube and the mainstream media made these extremely biased plays did I truly understand that not only was there a culture war going on, but ... it's already over. The SJW left has their claws in literally everything. If anything, free-thinking individualists are now regulated to "trolls" - we're actually a resistance to what has quietly become a collectivism revolving around thought-policing. Hell, if I tell 80% of my acquaintances why I truly don't wanna see Captain Marvel instead of "the trailer didn't grab me - I'll catch it on streaming."... they'd probably be too afraid to talk to me. We really are living in interesting times. But viva la resistance.


RoK Bottom Studios
They think they won without realizing they just destroyed the last bit of credibility they had left. Rotten Tomatoes is not a viable review source anymore, and the media is bias to any film that matches their agenda. Also no one said Captain Marvel will flop, those that said that completely forgot this is Marvel, and it's a movie that's leading to Endgame. They won one battle but are losing the war.

Juan Medrano
So how do we shut them down for doing it dfctomm @Juan Nedrano We shut up, and don't give them a bad guy they can use to motivate the SJWs. Let Brie say whatever Brie wishes to say about white guys, but just don't give them a penny of your money.

dfctomm @Paul Nguyen
I don't believe that SJWs really like super-hero movies, and their attendance is generally a response to us. They attend for political reasons, not for enjoyment, and so if you remove the politics then most of these types of movies are failures. Look at female led action flicks that we ignore, they generally flop. We are the match that lights the SJW fire. P.S. let me edit that. remove politics and superhero movies will FAIL to motivate SJW attendance. It may or may not be a financial success.

ZoviZ 23 minutes ago @dfctomm
I'm thinking you are spot on with this. instead of going ballistic whenever some sjw actor/actress or whomever says anything about their fanbase, we should just ignore it and do not give them money. You're correct that a lot of people see those movies simply for political reasons.


My Reply:

Not enough people are going to shut up and it's just too much fun to respond. Them winning a battle by having to spend money to see movies they don't want to see isn't really a victory. Especially if continuing to respond to them wakes people up politically and we can have victories there. Of course we have to suffer with sub par movies as well, but this also inspires people to create their own art and their own versions of things like the Darth Vader fan film. People also start to entertain themselves in other ways that are healthier than Hollywood films in every way. Like getting out in the real world and getting some exercise and going to each other for news commentary/comic relief thus avoiding propaganda in two ways at once. Just like how Big Tech has led to many alternative platforms being created. Also, even films that aren't as good as they could be aren't usually a total wash at all and I've gotten really creative in still being able to see these films and never pay a dime. I payed to see the Hillary's America documentary for instance and then walked into Ghostbusters 2016!

Related:

Saturday, March 9, 2019

Rotten Tomatoes is Fake News - Deletes 54,000 Captain Marvel Reviews & Youtube Hiding Videos On Brie Larson! - BOTS SPAM ROTTEN TOMATOES WITH IDENTICAL FAKE POSITIVE REVIEWS! - Rotten Tomatoes Adds Fan Scores Back!!! CRAZY - SJWs Blame Men for Captain Marvel Being WORST Reviewed Marvel Movie IN HISTORY!






Girthy Gamer SD
This is how they work... they have to lie and force their ideas on you because they can’t sell it. Socialism doesn’t work!
Rotten Tomatoes is Fake News - Deletes 54,000 Captain Marvel Reviews & Youtube Hiding Videos On Brie Larson! - BOTS SPAM ROTTEN TOMATOES WITH IDENTICAL FAKE POSITIVE REVIEWS! - Rotten Tomatoes Adds Fan Scores Back!!! CRAZY - SJWs Blame Men for Captain Marvel Being WORST Reviewed Marvel Movie IN HISTORY!

Related:

FakeNewsInvasion.blogspot.com

How Brie Larson Cost Marvel One Hundred Million Dollars - ROFL! PANIC ENSUES AS THE FANDOM MENACE CRUSHES ROTTEN TOMATOES ON STAR WARS IX AND CAPTAIN MARVEL! - Captain Marvel's in Damage Control Mode:

http://starwarsparodyhub.blogspot.com/2019/03/how-brie-larson-cost-marvel-one-hundred.html


Saturday, March 2, 2019 - AntiWhiteRacismExposed.blogspot.com

Exposing Real Racism - This Is Why Captain Marvel Will Get Perfect Reviews




Related:

Captain Marvel Soars While the Media Expose Their Own Bias - Captain Marvel Shatters Box Office and Possibly the MCU





Captain Marvel Soars While the Media Expose Their Own Bias - Captain Marvel Shatters Box Office and Possibly the MCU

UMCorian
It's only when Disney, YouTube and the mainstream media made these extremely biased plays did I truly understand that not only was there a culture war going on, but ... it's already over. The SJW left has their claws in literally everything. If anything, free-thinking individualists are now regulated to "trolls" - we're actually a resistance to what has quietly become a collectivism revolving around thought-policing. Hell, if I tell 80% of my acquaintances why I truly don't wanna see Captain Marvel instead of "the trailer didn't grab me - I'll catch it on streaming."... they'd probably be too afraid to talk to me. We really are living in interesting times. But viva la resistance.


RoK Bottom Studios 
They think they won without realizing they just destroyed the last bit of credibility they had left. Rotten Tomatoes is not a viable review source anymore, and the media is bias to any film that matches their agenda. Also no one said Captain Marvel will flop, those that said that completely forgot this is Marvel, and it's a movie that's leading to Endgame. They won one battle but are losing the war.

Juan Medrano 
So how do we shut them down for doing it dfctomm @Juan Nedrano We shut up, and don't give them a bad guy they can use to motivate the SJWs. Let Brie say whatever Brie wishes to say about white guys, but just don't give them a penny of your money.

dfctomm @Paul Nguyen
I don't believe that SJWs really like super-hero movies, and their attendance is generally a response to us. They attend for political reasons, not for enjoyment, and so if you remove the politics then most of these types of movies are failures. Look at female led action flicks that we ignore, they generally flop. We are the match that lights the SJW fire. P.S. let me edit that. remove politics and superhero movies will FAIL to motivate SJW attendance. It may or may not be a financial success.

ZoviZ 23 minutes ago @dfctomm
I'm thinking you are spot on with this. instead of going ballistic whenever some sjw actor/actress or whomever says anything about their fanbase, we should just ignore it and do not give them money. You're correct that a lot of people see those movies simply for political reasons.


My Reply:

Not enough people are going to shut up and it's just too much fun to respond. Them winning a battle by having to spend money to see movies they don't want to see isn't really a victory. Especially if continuing to respond to them wakes people up politically and we can have victories there. Of course we have to suffer with sub par movies as well, but this also inspires people to create their own art and their own versions of things like the Darth Vader fan film. People also start to entertain themselves in other ways that are healthier than Hollywood films in every way. Like getting out in the real world and getting some exercise and going to each other for news commentary/comic relief thus avoiding propaganda in two ways at once. Just like how Big Tech has led to many alternative platforms being created. Also, even films that aren't as good as they could be aren't usually a total wash at all and I've gotten really creative in still being able to see these films and never pay a dime. I payed to see the Hillary's America documentary for instance and then walked into Ghostbusters 2016! 

How Brie Larson Cost Marvel One Hundred Million Dollars - ROFL! PANIC ENSUES AS THE FANDOM MENACE CRUSHES ROTTEN TOMATOES ON STAR WARS IX AND CAPTAIN MARVEL! - Captain Marvel's in Damage Control Mode





How Brie Larson Cost Marvel One Hundred Million Dollars - ROFL! PANIC ENSUES AS THE FANDOM MENACE CRUSHES ROTTEN TOMATOES ON STAR WARS IX AND CAPTAIN MARVEL! - Captain Marvel's in Damage Control Mode

Related:

Captain Marvel Goes SJW Playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLljyz_HCQYVKEqv0ENpyeMW6CZbXV6lms

Sunday, January 20, 2019

The Anti-SJW 2020 Ghostbusters Remake - Ghostbusters 3 Is TRUMPS FAULT! MSM Blames Toxic Men! - Leslie Jones Has Trump Derangement Syndrome - NPC Media Tries To Defend Ghostbusters 2016

Editor's Note: I enjoyed Ghostbusters 2016. It wasn't great, but it was pretty good. I did NOT feel like they totality shit on everything Ghostbusters stood for like many do, eg respect for the topic of the paranormal. I hated the politics of it and the filmmakers officially freaking endorsed Hillary Clinton! So I refused to pay for a ticket. In full disclosure, I paid to see Dinesh D'Souza's Hillary's America and snuck into Ghostbusters! There wasn't too much political stuff that made its way into the film though. There were some lame comedic moments, but some some really funny ones as well.




The Anti-SJW 2020 Ghostbusters Remake - Ghostbusters 3 Is TRUMPS FAULT! MSM Blames Toxic Men! - Leslie Jones Has Trump Derangement Syndrome - NPC Media Tries To Defend Ghostbusters 2016

Related:

How to Break Free and Not Be An NPC - How to Not Be a Non-Player Character and Really Get in the Game:

http://truthtellersradio.blogspot.com/2018/10/how-to-break-free-and-not-be-npc-how-to.html

Friday, April 20, 2018

WTF Ernie Hudson! 'I'm Not Saying It Was Racism, but It Was Racism' (Paraphrasing) It Wasn't Racism You Rich AF Crybaby!


EXCLUSIVE: What happened to Ernie Hudson? Forgotten fourth Ghostbuster reveals franchise was 'most painful' part of his career... but he'd love to make another

Hudson, who played Winston Zeddemore, one of four spirit-exterminators who fearlessly take on evil ghosts and ghouls infiltrating Manhattan, said the movie was the 'most painful' of his career after studio bosses cut him out of publicity posters and chopped his character’s role...

'You know Ghostbusters was a lot of fun. The guys were a lot of fun to work with and we laughed a lot,' he said.
'But for me personally the movie was probably the most fun and one of the most painful movies I’ve ever done.
'For me it was a real adjustment because the studio kept making decisions that did not include me. So it was hard for me psychologically to stay positive.
'It’s only been in the last 15 years that I’ve actually started to relax and embrace the whole Ghostbuster idea because basically when the movie came out – I wasn’t on the poster, I wasn’t in the trailer...

'My character was dropped half way through the movie and then didn’t come in until half way through.
'You want to stay positive and you want to show up for work and do your best job but it was hard.  
'But then in the second movie they did the exact same thing - they took the character completely out of the first half of the movie. And I’m going: "Why?" That of course has never really been answered.'
His omission from publicity materials has even led some fans to speculate whether - as the only black Ghostbuster – race was an issue in the studio’s decision.
But the actor remains philosophical and believes there could be any number of reasons why he was 'left out'.
'When you’re a black guy you can blame everything on racism,' he said.
'But I don’t go there. I think there are a lot of reason why things happen and race is often the least likely reason.
'When fans come up to me and suggest that race is an issue in the movie I always say at least they included me in the film - they didn’t have to do that.
'But then again I don’t know why - there’s so many things about this business that I don’t know why.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2738009/Ernie-Hudson-reveals-Ghostbusters-painful-career.html#ixzz5DDElNO8E
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Question Ernie, are you a comic genius? No? Hmm...

Ernie Hudson Net Worth: $15 Million

Oh the pain! Make it stop! Make it stop!

Let's hear about his struggle a bit more, I'll make a few internal comments in red, and then we'll get the last part of this puzzle put together.


Ernie Hudson on being the squeezed Ghostbuster: ‘If I blame racism there’s nothing I can learn from it’

I love Ghostbusters but I hate the way they squeezed out your character.
You know, I never bring it up unless someone else does and since you have … I tell people Ghostbusters was the most fun I had, but it was also the most difficult for reasons that I, to this day, do not understand. In the script that I read for the audition, Winston is in the film all the way through the movie. But they changed it just before we shot, so I had to wrap my head around that. I think the studio thought they could sell the guys as they were from Saturday Night Live, and so they wanted to include Winston marginally. But then when we came back five years later for the sequel, they did the same thing! That I didn’t understand. But once you become really angry, it’s all over, so I just kept working and stayed positive.

Did you become a comic genius by the time the second film was being made? No? Hmm...

So you think it was the studio who cut your character down and not Ramis and Aykroyd, who wrote the script?
You know, nobody tells you. I blame the studio because in my mind it’s easier for me to say “some exec” rather than the guy sitting next to me. I don’t think it came from the guys; the guys are great, but what do I know? But what I have come to appreciate over the 30 years is how amazingly loyal the fans are. No matter where I go, fans quote lines from Winston (3). I went to buy a car the other day and the mechanic had a tattoo of Winston’s face on his leg. So that I really appreciate.
Some fans think maybe the studio was being racist when they cut you out, and some think the part was originally written for Eddie Murphy.

Some fans are hypocritical 
leftist SJW crybaby bitches... perpetually offended... always inventing racism where none exists... and pawns in an agenda that seeks to foment racial division.

If I go to the racial side of it and blame that, it takes all my power away, because if I blame racism there’s nothing I can learn from it, and the message to my sons becomes really blurred. I’m telling my boys, you can step out and grow and be and do – and then all of a sudden I’m saying, I’m being shut down because I’m black. So what I have to do is say, maybe there are other reasons. But yeah, had I been as big a star as Eddie Murphy, I don’t think the part would have been cut.

No, if Eddie Murphy, a comic genius, were in the role he would not have had his part cut. Isn't he black? Hmm...
Is it true they turned you down to voice the Winston character in the cartoon of Ghostbusters (4)?
Yeah, that’s a little weird. They called me up and I said, “Yeah, I wanna do it” because the cartoon could have made a big difference in my life, so they brought me in and the director [of the cartoon] started telling me what “Ernie Hudson in the movie” did and explaining what Ernie Hudson did. It was the weirdest thing! Then I called my agent and they said they thought I was going to be doing something and I’d be too busy or some excuse like that. But I’m telling you, I’d have loved to have done the cartoon and it bothered me that somebody else did Winston, but, once again, Ghostbusters has been a learning and growing experience for me.

The voice actors for Winston in America were both black, so... Less money? Better job/fit for some reason? Not racism certainly. 
You sound so zen about all this, Ernie. I’d be spitting feathers.
You know, I have sons, and in this environment black men can be very marginalised and bad things happen and the attitude I take on about my life, they pick up, and I didn’t want them to go out there like that. So I say, listen man, there are a lot of hard things and you gotta keep going. I can’t make that speech if I’m not living it. So I just say, I’ve studied and trained and I’m ready to work, and you hope that someone out there will let me work and someone always has. So maybe that’s the lesson I needed to learn in this life.

More:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/16/ernie-hudson-ghostbusters-winston
The original concept for Winston was younger and hipper. The crew thought of a young black comedian like Eddie Murphy for the role. At one point, Gregory Hines was talked to, but the directors later decided that the crew needed a "straight man," and decided casting a fourth comedian to the film would put too much comedic light in the film. [13]

And there you have it, that's why Ernie wasn't as big of a character as the others. He wasn't a comic genius, he was the straight man. Plain and simple.

Related:

JM Talboo Reviews Ghostbusters - Official Endorsers of Hillary Clinton for President 2016 - A Good Film Gone Bad by Aggressive Agenda-Driven Promotion:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2016/07/jm-talboo-reviews-ghostbusters-official.html

Sunday, July 31, 2016

JM Talboo Reviews Ghostbusters - Official Endorsers of Hillary Clinton for President 2016 - A Good Film Gone Bad by Aggressive Agenda-Driven Promotion


No major spoilers of any kind in this review itself beyond a few minor details and many of the links lead to spoilers. If you don't want to know anything, like even the mention of a ghostly character that appears on screen then best avoid.

The Bad News First:

I personally can say that I enjoyed this flick on the big screen a few nights ago with my wifey after receiving some free tickets. That being said, those responsible for this production, meaning everyone from the studio, to the director, to the actors, do not in any way deserve your hard earned money. Why? Because of the disingenuous and agenda-driven way that they have all promoted the film. The decision by the studio execs to get involved in the the culture war and surrounding politics was quite possibly not driven by genuine ideological motives so much as financial ones, but the aftermath is the same either way. And the director Paul Feig quite obviously is a man hating (male) Social Justice Warrior type. I recommend this positive review of the film that also attempts to psychoanalyze Feig, so as to, in the immortal words of Bill Murray, find out what makes him tick. As they state in the review video description, "paul feig is a lolcow. ghostbusters was cute. but is it worth giving money to someone who hates you (and himself)?"

I don't think the movie itself is anywhere nearly as tainted by an SJW agenda as Mundane Matt (below video) and others have made it out to be. Although some of those criticisms have merit, while other things are being  understandably overly scrutinized leading to conclusions of an agenda where there likely was none.

Another downside is that there are noteworthy amounts of really corny (not funny corny) parts and failed attempts at humor.

Next up, is the majorly overused CGI special effects, which is not in  keeping with the original films that by comparison took  a less is more type of approach, which makes the viewer appreciate the razzle dazzle moments much more. Furthermore, a substantial amount of said effects are cartoonish, very Disney's Haunted Mansion-esque and were an actual major cause for the early heavy criticisms of the film trailer, earning it the title of most disliked video in YouTube history. This innocent critical observation was among the things viciously and ignorantly spun into unfounded allegations of misogyny, see first link above. Case in point on the bad effects, is that Slimer and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man look better in the 1984 version. I recently rewatched the 1984 original and the special effects hold up quite well and are overall better than this film. The one exception in the original is the goofy looking claymation part where the demon dog is running around, when it's stationary  the animatronic version of the dog looks great. Now don't get me wrong, there are also some great modern effects that surpass anything in the older film as well,  some of which I'll get to in a sec. However, better visuals should be expected with the advancements in the tech available. This is why I say overall the effects are better in the old film, because they didn't use a lot vs this incarnation and what they did use always aimed and largely succeeded in coming off as realistic.

The Good News:

Overall I give it a solid 2 1/2 stars. It's at least as good if not better than Ghostbusters 2. The material that misses the mark in the laugh department is countered by a fair share of smile inducing and lol worthy material from some very funny ladies. I think they all did a great job and I particularly liked Kristin Wigg's performance, which includes a hip-hop dance performance that I found impressive and due to the situation it occurs in it got me chucking. I also thought Kate McKinnon's character was great, much wilder but reminiscent of the beloved Dr. Egon Spangler in her eccentricity and role as the brains of the brainy crew. Actor Harold Ramis, who is now decreased, gave life to Dr. Spangler and there is an Easter egg in the new film that pays him tribute. The cameos from the former Ghostbusters stars I also thought were great and did not seem out of place and forced as some have argued.  I also left the theater with the opinion that the criticism that Leslie Jones is playing a black woman stereotype is unwarranted. It was not the over-the-top cringe fest I was told so often to expect. She herself has rejected this notion saying that "if I'm stereotype, so be it." This was in reference to her character being an average Joe in comparison to the 3 other genius scientist Ghostbusters. I'd go one step further and say that from what I can tell she talks very much like her character in real life, so she's not playing a stereotype, but rather proof that stereotypes don't materialize out of thin air as do the ghosts in the movie.

One thing nobody has mentioned that I've come across, is that the 3D version of the movie makes the best use of that technology that I have seen and I'm a huge 3D fan. The film masterfully uses the trick of adding a letterbox to create the illusion of things literally coming out of the screen and the 3D is just really good in general. And contrary to appearances from the trailer, the film does respect the subject matter of the paranormal. They do a pretty good damn job with that aspect and made a pretty good damn film really.

I'm just one guy, but I bet I'm not alone in saying that if those involved in this film series can just keep the politics to a minimum, treat the fans with respect, and not turn a true misogynistic minority into a monolithic majority, that I'll pay to go see the planned sequel. I'll buy the Blu-Ray of this one when it comes out, but I think they deserved getting slimed at the box office.

Saturday, July 2, 2016

Ghostbusters Reboot: Sony Hits Back at Fan Backlash

OK, I was taking a moderate stance on this whole deal, but the things brought to light for me featured in the below video are just too much. I was aware of people attacking James Rolfe for his refusal to review the film. I'm a big fan of his and to me he is clearly a very nice guy and not a misogynist or a loser as alleged. What I wasn't aware of was the extreme level of vitriol that Rolfe had received and how a female contemporary of his with similar opinions was being ignored. I was aware of director Paul Feig calling out geek culture as being full of assholes. He was butt-hurt, I can forgive, but I wasn't aware of the officially sanctioned censorship from Sony of well-written criticisms, while leaving misogynistic comments intact. Nor was I aware of how the stars of the film were continuing to advance the false narrative that misogynistic losers were at the heart of the heavy criticism. I also wasn't aware of the extreme politicization going on for Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump. I'll still watch the film one day somehow, but I won't be paying for it in any way shape or form.

Wednesday, June 1, 2016

Ghostbusters 3: History of a cancelled sequel

Ghostbusters: The REAL Reasons for the Backlash and Controversy

I for one am excited for the new Ghostbusters film, but this video makes some excellent points about how it is, so far as we can tell, lacking in some elements that made the original film what it was. I'm just going to try and like it for what it is. Which may very well be the movie Bridesmaids with proton packs. I like both of those things and the original Ghostbusters isn't going anywhere. It's gotta be as good as Ghostbusters 2, no!? As to pushing an SJW agenda, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But if so, all I have to say is that I always thought Dana Barrett and Janine Melnitz were strong female characters!



GHOSTBUSTERS - Official Trailer (HD) by debunkerbuster

Update:

OK, I was taking a moderate stance on this whole deal, but the things brought to light for me featured in the below video are just too much. I was aware of people attacking James Rolfe for his refusal to review the film. I'm a big fan of his and to me he is clearly a very nice guy and not a misogynist or a loser as alleged. What I wasn't aware of was the extreme level of vitriol that Rolfe had received and how a female contemporary of his with similar opinions was being ignored. I was aware of director Paul Feig calling out geek culture as being full of assholes. He was butt-hurt, I can forgive, but I wasn't aware of the officially sanctioned censorship from Sony of well-written criticisms, while leaving misogynistic comments intact. Nor was I aware of how the stars of the film were continuing to advance the false narrative that misogynistic losers were at the heart of the heavy criticism. I also wasn't aware of the extreme politicization going on for Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump. I'll still watch the film one day somehow, but I won't be paying for it in any way shape or form.

Friday, March 4, 2016

GHOSTBUSTERS - Official Trailer (HD)

OK, I was taking a moderate stance on this whole deal, but the things brought to light for me featured in the below video are just too much. I was aware of people attacking James Rolfe for his refusal to review the film. I'm a big fan of his and to me he is clearly a very nice guy and not a misogynist or a loser as alleged. What I wasn't aware of was the extreme level of vitriol that Rolfe had received and how a female contemporary of his with similar opinions was being ignored. I was aware of director Paul Feig calling out geek culture as being full of assholes. He was butt-hurt, I can forgive, but I wasn't aware of the officially sanctioned censorship from Sony of well-written criticisms, while leaving misogynistic comments intact. Nor was I aware of how the stars of the film were continuing to advance the false narrative that misogynistic losers were at the heart of the heavy criticism. I also wasn't aware of the extreme politicization going on for Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump. I'll still watch the film one day somehow, but I won't be paying for it in any way shape or form.




GHOSTBUSTERS - Official Trailer (HD) by debunkerbuster

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Ghostbusters makes its long-awaited return, rebooted with a cast of hilarious new characters. Thirty years after the beloved original franchise took the world by storm, director Paul Feig brings his fresh take to the supernatural comedy, joined by some of the funniest actors working today – Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Kate McKinnon, Leslie Jones, and Chris Hemsworth. This summer, they’re here to save the world! 

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Cast: 
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Kristen Wiig 
Kate McKinnon 
Leslie Jones 
Charles Dance 
Michael Kenneth Williams 
and Chris Hemsworth 

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Paul Feig 

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Paul Feig & Katie Dippold 

Based on the film “Ghostbusters” 
Written by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis 
and Directed by Ivan Reitman 

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Amy Pascal 

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Jessie Henderson 
Dan Aykroyd 
Tom Pollock 
Joe Medjuck 
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