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| title: Gulf of Tonkin Incident |
| On August 4, a new DESOTO patrol to North Vietnam coast was launched by Maddox and the C. Turner Joy. The latter got radar signals that they believed to be another attack by the North Vietnamese. For some two hours the ships fired on radar targets and maneuvered vigorously amid electronic and visual reports of torpedoes. It is highly unlikely that any North Vietnamese forces were actually in the area during this gunfight. Captain John J. Herrick even admitted that it was nothing more than an "overeager sonarman" who "was hearing ship's own propeller beat." Also in 1995, General Vo Nguyen Giap, commander-in-chief of North Vietnamese forces at the time, disavowed any involvement with the August 4 incident, though he did confirm the August 2 attack. |
| site: www.nationmaster.com page: www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Gulf-of-Tonkin-Incident |
| e x c e r p t |
| title: Vietnam War Intelligence 'Deliberately Skewed,' Secret Study Says |
| authors: Scott Shane |
Vietnam War Intelligence 'Deliberately Skewed,' Secret Study Says... In his 2001 article, an elaborate piece of detective work, Mr. Hanyok wrote that 90 percent of the intercepts of North Vietnamese communications relevant to the supposed Aug. 4, 1964, attack were omitted from the major agency documents going to policy makers. "The overwhelming body of reports, if used, would have told the story that no attack had happened," he wrote. "So a conscious effort ensued to demonstrate that an attack occurred." Edwin E. Moïse, a historian at Clemson University who wrote a book on the Gulf of Tonkin incident, said the agency did the right thing in making public Mr. Hanyok's damning case. "A lot of people at the agency haven't been happy that communications intelligence was used to support a wrong conclusion," he said. |
| site: nytimes.com page: www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1202-06.htm http://911review.com/precedent/century/tonkin.html |
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